There are a few that have, I guess its a bitch. I know that does not help though.

I would recommend replacing the gasket though. Let me see if I can find someone that knows.

 

My uncle has done it on other cars and he said it's easy, just have to replace the gasket.

 

No gaskets, it uses o-rings. They shouldn't really need replaced if you don't damage them. Personally I would recommend removing the bolt for the driver's side engine mount and using a hoist to raise that side of the engine up a couple inches. That's how I removed mine. :shrug:

 

Might be easier doing that, when I took mine off it was a bitch although the starter sounds like a pain also. It shows that it pays 4 hours in alldata. that is with taking off the manifold though. If you give me your email I will send you the pdf instructions.

 

Thanks Don, I was hoping you would pop in here!

 

I want to try and get it on my uncles lift and see if I can get some leverage from the underside before I take off the intake. Is it pretty straight forward?

 

I don't remember anything particularly complicated about it other than it's just a whore to get to some of the bolts. There's no way to get the starter out from underneath? I haven't looked too closely at it.

 

My uncle has an Alldata account, got em. but thatnks anyways.

 

Ohhh I get what you mean now. Raise the engine to remove the starter, I thought you meant raise the engine to help getting the intake... I was like uhm, I doubt I would need to.

 

Well I am not sure. I took out my fender wells so I could get to it and I pried and pried at it but it barely budged.

 

once its on the lift , you should be able to get to the starter.....youd be suprised how much having a lift helps!

 

And we thank you Chris!

 

God, that intake manifold is a SOB! Knuckle buster bro!

 

F the Huge ass intake manifold!!!!!!

I'm getting one made.

 

lol, i better get my wheels back!

 

Don in da house. Good info right there.

 

thanks guys. Now i got to determine if i want to get a brand new starter or try and find one at a salvage yard haha.

 

No, there is NO way to get the starter off from underneath. You can't see, or even get a hand in there to touch the bolts. It's effin buried.

 

blower...i thought my s-10 was a bitch to change

 

Going through all that crap to change a starter..... get a new one if its in your budget.

 

Ya, I wasn't sure taht you could from the bottom. I know I can get to it from the fender well but I can't get it out.

 

Ya the price is no problem, I just don't think it would be a huge deal if its used or not. I guess it's still taking a chance. Don't ever want to change it again haha

 

I took mine off once to clean my fuel injectors, when i looked inside it was coated with all kinds of awesome trash... anyhow without the inner fenders its not too bad, I had full access to the starter, I never could find it till then lol!

 

so for future reference, i dont have an engine hoist, so i should be able to remove the starter by taking off the fender lining and the intake manifold?

 

I'm not certain if I couldve gotten it out but I could see it and get to it pretty easily?

 

id go along with the lifting of the side of the engine. sounds like itd be easyer but id be careful not to lift it too much. i could see it goin bad realy quick. id say salvage yard would be ok if u got a low milage starter

 

with the fender wells in, it would be a task getting it out. I still can't get it yet with my fender wells out. taking the plastic off wont do much to help I don't think. You would be best taking off the intake or finding a friend with a hoist or buying/making one. There not THAT expensive. BTW dealership wants a grand to change it.

 

If you don't have a hoist you might be able to get away with a jack under the oil pan to lift the engine a little, you'd have to be careful though and I'd recommend something between the jack and oil pan to make sure the weight is distributed evenly across the bottom of it. You mainly need to pay attention to the passenger rear of the engine when lifting up the driver's side, make sure you don't crush anything into the firewall. It doesn't make it a cakewalk to get the manifold out but it gives you a couple extra inches to get your hands/ratchet in there so it doesn't seem impossible at least.

I guess now that I think of it the engine block sticks out from that side blocking access to the starter from underneath. That's the side of the engine that the balance shafts are on.

 

holy shit $1000 to change a starter!!!! thats total nonsense! the one on my cherokee shit out every 6-10 months i had to do it 3 times! it was done without even a jack though lol just crawl under, drop it down, install new.

thats insane.... guess if i have to do this i'll be trackin down a buddy and a haynes repair manual.

 

Ya, I would just take it to the dealer so I wouldn't have to mess with it but I can't bring my self to pay a grand for a fucking starter.