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False Overheat / never getting warm - cluster solder issue - bad cluster fix

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This is my first post here, but I'm not new to forums, nor am I new to my 2012 Colorado with the 5.3L. I've fixed various issues in the last few years, many of which had short circuited timelines from info here, so I wanted to share something I found in my truck that I've not yet see on the forums at all.

Over the past few weeks, I've been observing odd temperature control issues with my truck. On some days, it would fail to warm up completely on my 4 mile traffic riddled commute to/from work, and on other days, it would appear to be overheating by the end of the commute. In all cases, the actual reported temperature from my scan tool was somewhere between 170 degF and 195 degF, meaning everything was functioning completely normal.

Admittedly, before I really dug in, I got out the parts cannon and blasted a water pump, thermostat and fan clutch at it. It has 120K on the ODO, 25K of which was from me, so I figured replacing things that needed some love anyway was a good way to down sample the diag entry points.

While my thermostat definitely needed replacement due to seal deterioration, and my water pump bearings were pretty noisy, the issue persisted after the parts cannon.

One morning though, when the weather was cool, I noticed after key on that the temperature needle was already at 1/4 warm even before starting. I drove it to work anyway, and the needle was reporting hot again on arrival, while the scan tool was once again reporting ~190 degF. This is when I got suspicious of the gauge cluster.

This weekend I pulled the cluster, which took all of 10 minutes, and disassembled it with the expectation of finding a bad needle drive motor or a needle whose attachment mechanism had come loose. To my surprise, it was a manufacturing defect from the factory. Each needle drive motor has 4 solder joints where the needle is soldered to the PCB, and 3 of the 4 needle motors in my cluster had at least 1 cold solder joint from the factory. The temp needle's motor had one of the cold joints that had failed from shock/vibration, and the solder joint was making intermediate contact, causing the motor to drive the needle erratically.

I've attached a gif of a video below showcasing how the solder pin in the PCB was loose to give you guys an idea of what to look for. The fix was to carefully add a little bit of 2.2% flux cored 63/37 leaded solder to each of the pins very quickly and carefully to reflow them. The truck is completely normal again.

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I hope this helps someone else get to the bottom of what appears to be a "typical" overheating issue.
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Welcome to the Nation.

Thanks for the very informative post. That was some excellent troubleshooting. Definitely bad looking solderiing joints. A rare occurance with these trucks.
Welcome to the Nation.

Thanks for the very informative post. That was some excellent troubleshooting. Definitely bad looking solderiing joints. A rare occurance with these trucks.
It's actually the second electrical gremlin that hit me with this truck... The first was a VATS timeout that kept stumping me while on an offroad trip in Utah and Colorado. It would no crank/no start every morning after sitting in the cold. I realized that it would start every time 15 minutes after the initial crank, so I would just toggle the key 15 minutes before we planned to hit the trails and had no issues. It turned out to be fretting corrosion on the ignition cylinder wiping contacts that would cause intermittency after sitting but that would be clean enough after one swipe to work next hit. The 15 minutes is an intentional anti-theft timeout in the VATS system when it thinks it detected key tampering...

I cleaned off the contacts and added some dielectric grease and haven't had the issue since, and that was two years ago.

If it sounds like I've mostly had electrical issues, I haven't... On that same trip, the trans cooler failed internally in the radiator and my trans fluid and coolant combined throughout to form pepto bismal. That slushie ultimately took out the trans, so now I have a GM refurb trans with some internal goodies. I've also fixed a couple exhaust leaks, replaced the rear main seal, replaced the steering rack, replaced a stuck front caliper, replaced all bushings in the front end, replaced sway bar end links, and fabricobbled mounts for some broken knob/switch mounts in the driver's seat controls. It still has a stabilitrak / ABS fault that keeps ABS and traction control disabled that I am pretty sure is due to a failed steering wheel position sensor...

Never buy a vehicle from CarMax...

I still love the truck though!
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I have seen this issue posted by someone else, Being from an electronics background I know that solder joints can fail, especially if it is subjected to vibration. I have had them fail myself on other cars like on the control board for the windshield wipers.
The main clue was using the scan tool and seeing it showing normal readings would lead directly to something failed in the gauge cluster or wiring leading to the cluster.
I hope you inspected all the solder joints on it because there is a good likelyhood of others failing.
That seems like a lot of problems for a 2012 truck. I have a 2011 5.3 and although I keep up with the maintenance, i also drive it like I stole it. A leaking radiator and a worn universal joint and a rear main seal have been about all of my mechanical issues. I noticed some wet around the front crank seal so I have prepared for that when it comes. The only electrical/electronic issue was a failure in the TCM. There is a shop near me that sells programmed modules, so I got away cheap with that. Yep, going to keep mine until either it or I die.
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I think the other cluster older issue was related to the fuel gauge. Same symptoms though. Occasionally erratic readings that did not correlate with the scan gauge. My fuel gauge does that too, but Im waiting for a convenient time to get in there ny re flow those joints.
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