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Is my body to frame mounting cushion list correct?

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Just rolled over 97k miles on my 2010 Colorado CC 4x4. I am the original owner since 1/10/2010. While driving lately it seems the truck's reaction to manhole cover openings and potholes in the road are getting worse, specially noise wise in the cab. The suspension is good with recent Bilstein shock replacement, new tires, and alignment. This got me to thinking about the body to frame mounting cushions and maybe there would be a benefit by replacing them. After 9 years and 2 months of road duty, could they be worn out?

I have compiled a list of what I think would need replacing (GM p/n and qty):
15421187 (6)
15241188 (2)
20951813 (2)
20951814 (2)
22761935 (4)

Just wanting to know if the list is correct and is this actually worth doing. At this time I have not actually inspected the original cushions for wear and tear. I have read here on the forum that people have experienced great improvement after replacing them on their trucks. Any feedback is appreciated.
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Just rolled over 97k miles on my 2010 Colorado CC 4x4. I am the original owner since 1/10/2010. While driving lately it seems the truck's reaction to manhole cover openings and potholes in the road are getting worse, specially noise wise in the cab. The suspension is good ...

Don't know about the part-numbers, but...

That sensation of the truck's reaction to bumps and road-harshness is worth taking note of.. I experienced first-hand what a difference new cab-to-frame mounts make with my '05 crew. Those mounts are important.

In 2012 I had been looking for the source of an annoying squeak-squeak at low speeds as I drove over small bumps etc. I checked the springs and suspension, greased the tail-gate hinge, anything I could think of. None of that worked.

A 355 Nation member (can't recall who) suggested I look at the cab-to-body mounts.
I had never given a thought to those mounts at all.

I had a shop in Milwaukee pull them one at a time, and we found that the inner steel sleeve through which the bolt passes was corroded. We cleaned them up with a wire wheel and applied lithium grease. That solved the squeaking problem and I was really happy. The bolt on one mount though was too rusted and just spun freely when we tried to pull it. So we left it in place for the time being..

Some time passed and I was off other places (working).
In 2014 I was back in Milwaukee and decided that while I had that shop available to me I wanted to replace that one stubborn rusted mount. Recalling how rusted the mounts had all been and how worn the rubber looked, I purchased replacements for all of them.

By then I had about 125k miles on the truck.
I had recently had the front suspension totally rebuilt, including all the soft parts (bushings, shock-mount insulators, etc).

We greased all the replacement mounts before installing them (which you really really should do, applying heavy lithium grease into the inner sleeve of the mount) then replaced them all.

I was amazed how much better the truck drove and handled, just from replacement of those cab mounts. The truck felt new again in the ride-quality and chassis-noise.

Those mounts are an important part of the truck's overall chassis tuning. As you get into the 100k+ mileage you don't realize how gradually the ride-quality diminishes as compared to when the truck is new. The "noise/vibration/harshness" character of the truck just gradually goes to hell over time and miles.

It's the combination of the shocks and springs with the suspension soft parts, WITH the cab-to-frame mounts. They all work together.
That was my experience.

The one mount that was stubborn when we first removed the others... the bolt had corroded into the nut-plate that's welded into the body where the bolt threads in.
That nut is in a pocket in the floor-pan. Putting torque on the bolt pulled the weldnut loose inside the pocket where it's welded into the floor.

The tech (thanks Nick!) had to cut out a little 2-inch-square hole in the floor from inside the cab (it was the mount at the point just forward of the passenger-side kick-panel), chisel the weld-nut out of the floor and replace it.

Lesson learned: in addition to applying grease to the inner sleeve of the cab mounts, apply anti-seize to the bolt threads as you insert the bolt.

(the bolt inserts upward from underneath the frame, through holes in the frame, up through the mount, and into the cab floor... for those who have not looked at them.. )
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Found a thread I posted on it, with pics of the repair on the rusted weld-nut:
https://www.355nation.net/forum/chassis/115497-may-want-inspect-your-cab-frame-mounts.html


In a similar vein....
In '14 I also replaced my engine-mounts, 'just because'.
I was pleasantly surprised how much that improved idle-quality.


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Thanks Rick for all the info. I know I haven't verified the listed parts are defective but they have to be wearing. Since they are probably rubber, or rubberized, the material has to be hardening and cracking after over 9 years of use and exposure to road rubbish. I used rshadd's link to gmpartsdirect and just put in my year, model, and crew cab to compile the list of parts using their diagram. Hope nothing has been discontinued and all warehouse stock has been used up!
Since they are probably rubber, or rubberized, the material has to be hardening and cracking after over 9 years of use ...
Exactly what I found.
When you have a new one in your hand and remove the old one, that's exactly what you will see and feel. On mine there were little shallow surface cracks, nothing that appeared as if it mattered. But the hardening... it's like any rubber suspension piece. Put a fresh one beside an old worn one and you can feel the difference in hardness and resiliency.

They're like tall fat rubber doughnuts with a molded-in steel sleeve tube/tunnel running vertically through them.



..Hope nothing has been discontinued and all warehouse stock has been used up!
Stop saying stuff like that!!!!


As I've pondered (and obsessed) over which critical parts may become unavailable eventually, and because of the huge difference in ride-quality I described, the cab mounts have been part of that obsessing..

So as with every piece of the truck I run "what if" in my mind and wonder if it'll be at all possible to substitute/adapt mounts from any other truck..

I'm convinced that the mounts are "tuned" to some extent to the 355 specifically, but it could be I'm wrong about that. At least to the extent that it may be that if you physically adapted mounts from a Silverado or Tacoma (just for example... I haven't looked at any others to see how they compare in physical form) they might work just fine.

Part of the reason I think they're tuned to an extent is that there are different part-numbers for them. As I recall they all look to be the same to the eye. I'm pretty sure any of them will fit in any position... far as I can remember anyway.

I know I'll try to lay in a stash of them at some point.
At least on a single-cab (my present '08) there are fewer to be concerned with.

If you think of the weight of the cab (especially a crew) bolted to the frame, that's a lot of swaying and jostling it has to go through.

I was a little shocked at how small in diameter the cab mount bolts are..
Woulda thought there would be more than that keeping the cab secure onto the frame.
It's kinda important they don't part ways...

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Just rolled over 97k miles on my 2010 Colorado CC 4x4. I am the original owner since 1/10/2010. While driving lately it seems the truck's reaction to manhole cover openings and potholes in the road are getting worse, specially noise wise in the cab. The suspension is good with recent Bilstein shock replacement, new tires, and alignment. This got me to thinking about the body to frame mounting cushions and maybe there would be a benefit by replacing them. After 9 years and 2 months of road duty, could they be worn out?

I have compiled a list of what I think would need replacing (GM p/n and qty):
15421187 (6)
15241188 (2)
20951813 (2)
20951814 (2)
22761935 (4)

Just wanting to know if the list is correct and is this actually worth doing. At this time I have not actually inspected the original cushions for wear and tear. I have read here on the forum that people have experienced great improvement after replacing them on their trucks. Any feedback is appreciated.

The list of parts looks to be complete, for a Crew Cab. No recommendations regarding replacing them. I couldn't find any references, to them, in the Service Manual.
The list of parts looks to be complete, for a Crew Cab. No recommendations regarding replacing them. I couldn't find any references, to them, in the Service Manual.
If your truck has 100k+ miles, pull one and inspect it.

Regarding the improvement in ride-quality...
if I had not had the front suspension totally rebuilt and then driven it on the broken streets of Milwaukee for a month before replacing the cab mounts, I would not be so bold as to tell the Nation that the mounts themselves made as much difference as it did.


And as I pointed out back in '14, you need to consider at minimum pulling each bolt one at a time and coating it with anti-seize compound. You don't want to have to do what I had to do (well, what the tech at that shop did for me), cut into your floor from inside the cab to get at a seized weldnut. On mine it had just snapped away from the weld to the cab. So the bolt from the mount protruded up into the cab floor, but the weldnut it threaded into had broken loose from the cab when we first tried to unscrew the bolt to pull the mount out.

I need to at least pull the bolts to apply anti-seize on my '08, but I don't have a place to handle it. This thread reminds me though that it needs to be done.

You need to support the weight of the truck in the vicinity of each mount as you remove them one at a time with a jackstand or something and a piece of scrap 2x4.
I suspect if you just left the truck on the ground with the weight of the cab on the mount and then removed the bolt, stuff may shift enough that you can't align the bolt to get it back in.
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To do this replacement, would it be sufficient to lift the whole truck (say with a Quick Jack) or do you think this would still allow things to shift?
The guy who changed mine put it on a lift, then used a jackstand under the cab near the body mount with a short piece of scrap 2x4 between the jackstand and cab to spread the load out a bit. He did this for one mount at a time.

That worked. I don't know about anything else.
I think you just gotta help support the cab weight in the near vicinity of the mount being changed.
What is the correct or typical torque spec when reinstalling the bolts that have anti-seize on them? Where do you look that up?
What is the correct or typical torque spec when reinstalling the bolts that have anti-seize on them? Where do you look that up?
Nick, who did that work for me and other stuff, was good about giving me the torque specs for everything he did. I'll look in my records to see if I have that.
He always researched torque settings for bolts, never just did whatever.
He's a pro. Builds street-rods and a lot of cool projects. I miss him.

Whether I can find it of not... well I was on the road and a lot has happened since then.
I'll be ashamed though if I can't find it.
Don't put so much pressure on yourself Rick. It is just torque specs on a bolt with anti-seize. I have seen tables that differentiate between with or without anti-seize, for the same bolt. What is the original torque spec for the cab to frame bolts? Where is that info?
Found in GM Service Manual for 2009 and 2001 in the "Frame and Underbody" section, in the "Fastener Tightening Specifications" list:

Body Mounting Bolt 115 N-m/85 lb ft.
Found in GM Service Manual for 2009 and 2001 in the "Frame and Underbody" section, in the "Fastener Tightening Specifications" list:

Body Mounting Bolt 115 N-m/85 lb ft.
cart7881, always on-the-spot with the good stuff!

How, or whether to factor anti-seize into a given torque spec?
I know nothing.
I do know that those cab mounting bolts are gonna corrode without it.
Thanks cart7881 for the torque spec.
Just checked to find the mounts for my '08 single-cab.
They're available at
https://www.gmpartscenter.net
https://www.gmpartsdirect.com
https://www.gmpartsgiant.com

About $32 - $35 each seems to be the going price.
(my single-cab needs 6)

So no worries about availability... yet.

eta: These are the part-numbers for a single-cab
Need quantity 2 of each (6 parts total):
part# 2276 1935
part# 2095 1814
part# 2095 1813
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Just checked to find the mounts for my '08 single-cab.
They're available at
https://www.gmpartscenter.net
https://www.gmpartsdirect.com
https://www.gmpartsgiant.com

About $32 - $35 each seems to be the going price.
(my single-cab needs 6)

So no worries about availability... yet.

eta: These are the part-numbers for a single-cab
Need quantity 2 of each (6 parts total):
part# 2276 1935
part# 2095 1814
part# 2095 1813

Just pulled the trigger at gmpartsdirect for the 16 total cushions required on my 2010 crew cab. I just rolled over 98k miles and plan to replace them in the near future. Website indicated all were in stock. They had the cheapest total price that I could find out on the internet. I also priced them at my local Chevy dealer and they couldn't beat their total. Plus there is a limited time discount code (TAKE5) available right now that gets you 5% off total (up to $20). The discount basically covered the s&h.

After I get the replacement completed (and I remember to), I will post my follow-up comments about the install and improvements, if any. Maybe I just wasted my money, maybe not.
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Finally a follow-up. Another indicator of the body to frame cushions needing replaced was the alignment of the dealer installed pinstripe between the cab and the bed. I inserted a photo of the driver and passenger side. They definitely lined up when the truck was new. This also convinced me to invest in the new cushions.
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Was it worth it is the big question. Let's see, $471.27 for the full set (16 for a crew cab) of cushions from GMPartsDirect. Then $297.00 labor from a local auto service to install the full set. So $768.27 for the total. For me, YOU DAMN RIGHT it was worth it!! I was amazed at the total overall improvement. The truck feels tight and solid again, just like when it was new. Plus all the annoying little rattles and squeaks, ones that I had not even contributed to the cushion issue, are gone. On top of that, the pinstripe lines up again!
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Just rolled over 97k miles on my 2010 Colorado CC 4x4. I am the original owner since 1/10/2010. While driving lately it seems the truck's reaction to manhole cover openings and potholes in the road are getting worse, specially noise wise in the cab. The suspension is good with recent Bilstein shock replacement, new tires, and alignment. This got me to thinking about the body to frame mounting cushions and maybe there would be a benefit by replacing them. After 9 years and 2 months of road duty, could they be worn out?

I have compiled a list of what I think would need replacing (GM p/n and qty):
15421187 (6)
15241188 (2)
20951813 (2)
20951814 (2)
22761935 (4)

Just wanting to know if the list is correct and is this actually worth doing. At this time I have not actually inspected the original cushions for wear and tear. I have read here on the forum that people have experienced great improvement after replacing them on their trucks. Any feedback is appreciated.
I just got a parts list from a local dealer where I bought my truck and my part numbers and quantities match exactly. I would add that the oldest part number, 11611642 applies to 2004 to 2012, and all the others apply to 2007 to 2012. IDK if they would backfit 2004 to 2007 or that they wouldn't. .

I am replacing the rusted out frame.of my 2012 ext cab 4wd L5, and am replacing pretty much the entire front suspension except the spindles, refreshing the rear suspension, brake lines, and fuel supply line.
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