:lol2:From what I can tell from their website it's that it's all China bulbs and light strips you can get on eBay for way less. I hope they offer a discount.
That's the kind of common misconception I hope to clarify for members here on the forum. Although some LEDs may be similar in appearance, there are big differences in terms of brightness, quality, reliability, construction, components etc.From what I can tell from their website it's that it's all China bulbs and light strips you can get on eBay for way less. I hope they offer a discount.
You design it there, where is it built, where do the actual pieces of material come from?We design all of our replacement lighting here in St. Louis, and measure all of it to provide 100% accurate information.
It's designed here in St. Louis, and manufactured to our specifications overseas. There isn't a company in the U.S. that produces their own LEDs. Putco has a LED planting equipment, but they don't manufacture the components here. Even Rigid "assembles" their lighting products here in the U.S. but doesn't manufacture the actual componentsYou design it there, where is it built, where do the actual pieces of material come from?
There's no patents on Coca-cola, either. Patents are of little use in this industry (replacement LED bulbs), due to the fast-changing technology and near-zero enforceability. I mentioned that they were designed here because that is a HUGE difference- most bulbs are electrically designed in China, and never tested in a car. We design them to be used in cars, which means they operate at much higher specifications. Big difference when you actually design the bulbs with the vehicle in mind, rather than just putting something together on the bench with a perfect 12V power supply.So why even bother mentioning that it's designed in St. Louis? I don't see any patents applied for by your company either so you leave your designs unprotected. Sounds like they are just shipped to you from a manufacturer on alibaba. ex Universal T10 Automotive Led - Buy T10 Automotive Led,Automotive Led T10,T10 Led Automotive Product on Alibaba.com
Your heatsink technology is lacking on most bulbs you picture. If you check VLed and a few of the other bigger names in Auto LED's they incorporate a larger metallic heatsink and have much higher quality bases rather than injection molded plastic.
Sorry for being a bit of an ass, but the price you are charging is a premium for these and I just don't see the quality. The fact you offer incentives for good reviews doesn't instill much confidence either.
Thanks for the advice- we're currently very busy making a move into a new building over the next few weeks, but afterwards, we'll likely consider that in order to establish ourselves better. Products speak for themselves in the end!Paul-
I've only been a part of these forums for a short time but here's what I've noticed will drive business here. If you are confident in your product, reach out to some of the top contributors on our forum and see if they would do a side by side comparison of your product and some "cheap ebay bulbs". Granted you might have to give a small amount of product away from free but the returns would be worth it in the end. There is a community here with a ton of trust and if one of our trusted members says you're good then the orders will roll in.
(As much as I like free stuff, I would not be a good choice for this because, even though I'm an electrical engineer, I have not established my name in this community yet.)
Just my 2 cents. Take it or leave it.
Kyle
This guy knows his stuffPaul-
I've only been a part of these forums for a short time but here's what I've noticed will drive business here. If you are confident in your product, reach out to some of the top contributors on our forum and see if they would do a side by side comparison of your product and some "cheap ebay bulbs". Granted you might have to give a small amount of product away from free but the returns would be worth it in the end. There is a community here with a ton of trust and if one of our trusted members says you're good then the orders will roll in.
(As much as I like free stuff, I would not be a good choice for this because, even though I'm an electrical engineer, I have not established my name in this community yet.)
Just my 2 cents. Take it or leave it.
Kyle
Haha... I can agree with that. We build everything in house here but I'm guilty of trying to save money and ordering overseas just to get stuff and have to take it all apart to fix broken joints, lifted pads and cold solder joints. The amount of flux left on a lot of those boards is ridiculous.Thanks for the advice- we're currently very busy making a move into a new building over the next few weeks, but afterwards, we'll likely consider that in order to establish ourselves better. Products speak for themselves in the end!
Too risky for you to do it anyway. As an electrical engineer, you might have a heart attack over the solder joints on the eBay bulbs![]()
Paul