[Suns_PSD]

Not sure what you guys are talking about, but I was talking about the gasoline v6 that is in the 2013 Dodge pickup half ton. Magazine testers are seeing about 15 miles per gallon. Far from the 25 highway rating that the EPA came up with.

 

[tbarnhart]

Sorry I assumed that you were talking about the diesel. I still can't believe that they would release the v6 that only gets 15 overall. Dodge would be shooting them selves in the foot by doing that.


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[Jeff_C]

Either that, or the all new "small" Duramax will be so riddled with problems, no one will want it. It will go the way of the 6.0 PowerStroke.

You mean like what GM did to the 1500's in the late 70's with that Oldsmobile 350-cid V8 that they converted into a diesel?

 

[Suns_PSD]

Sorry I assumed that you were talking about the diesel. I still can't believe that they would release the v6 that only gets 15 overall. Dodge would be shooting them selves in the foot by doing that.


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The EPA mileage test is pretty specific and manufacturers program and plan around that to get that high number on the window sticker and more favorable average fleet MPG numbers.

But some vehicles, once in the real world under real driving conditions, can vary pretty greatly from those EPA numbers. Some light duty diesels, often commonly do better than the EPA numbers. Some gas vehicles do pretty close, and others do way less.

Either way, you can't get around physics. It takes "X" amount of hp to push "Y" amount of wind and to overcome "Z" amount of rolling frictional force. And that's it. Sure you can save fuel by increasing the engines efficiency but you haven't done anything to alter your primary contributors to drag. Namely a big ass tall truck w/ axles hanging down and wide and tall tires to turn.

I bought my '09 Colorado 2 months ago primarily for mpg as any truck can manage to haul my dirt bikes. My lowest tank was 20.3mpg and my highest tank was 25.6mpg. 80% of tanks come in at 22.4 mpg range. Super Unleaded gains me about 1.5mpg (up to the 22-23mpg amount) but the additional cost of the fuel is not offset by this small increase in mpg. But I still run the Super because I am burning less gasoline overall and I like that, and have less fill ups.

The fact that this '09 w/ a freakin' 4 speed transmission can still pull these sort of numbers w/ someone that drives at least 75mph everywhere, is just a reflection of how small, low, w/ small tires, the Colorado itself is.

 

[Drag Limited]

I won't be surprised if they lift the front ends off of, or simply mimic the Traverse and Acadia.

I actually think the Acadia front end on this truck will look bad ass!

 

[Josh]

You mean like what GM did to the 1500's in the late 70's with that Oldsmobile 350-cid V8 that they converted into a diesel?

A naturally-aspirated diesel. Two words that should never be used together.

 

[crg616]

they should have just made it look more like a smaller silverado. I personally dont think this truck will be popular just because of its looks

 

[Jeff_C]

A naturally-aspirated diesel. Two words that should never be used together.

Most of the HMMWV's I drove in the military were non-turbo and did pretty good... Broke the speedometer on a M1038 going down the Autobahn.... She was shaking and howling like a banshee.

The M1114 uparmoreds we had in Bosnia had turbos, they had the git up and go, but were seriously lacking the whoa! Due to their shitty brakes that were based on their much lighter non-armored siblings.

 

[Suns_PSD]

I sincerely wish I could order this truck right now as it's absolutely perfect for my needs.

I'm not certain I can wait an entire nother year or more. I might have to just buy a 2014 extended cab short bed Sierra instead of the crewcab long bed Colorado I desire. I really dislike how large the latest 1/2 ton trucks have become, it's just too much. Why do they need a hood that has 2' of clearance between the crank pulley and the radiator?

My current '09 Canyon has 112K miles (runs like it's a week old however) but the real problem is towing capacity and the small bed. I just need more capacity.

 

[fitsector]

I won't be surprised if they lift the front ends off of, or simply mimic the Traverse and Acadia.



I actually think the Acadia front end on this truck will look bad ass!

Not a bad front end for an SUV, but in the field of the real trucks you have to show up with a steel bumper. No need to say how many times we have pushed things with our 355´s

 

[tbarnhart]

I won't be surprised if they lift the front ends off of, or simply mimic the Traverse and Acadia.



I actually think the Acadia front end on this truck will look bad ass!

I really like that front end. I would take it.

 

[Z Fury]

I sincerely wish I could order this truck right now as it's absolutely perfect for my needs.

I'm not certain I can wait an entire nother year or more. I might have to just buy a 2014 extended cab short bed Sierra instead of the crewcab long bed Colorado I desire. I really dislike how large the latest 1/2 ton trucks have become, it's just too much. Why do they need a hood that has 2' of clearance between the crank pulley and the radiator?

My current '09 Canyon has 112K miles (runs like it's a week old however) but the real problem is towing capacity and the small bed. I just need more capacity.

I'm in the same boat. According to a GM rep, the Colorado will not share ANY engines with the Silverado, which means no new 4.3L in the Colorado (3.6 will be the top gas engine). No 4.3L means I'm out of the hunt on this one. I'm now shopping the full-size platform, which is what GM wanted to happen anyway. Mission accomplished, I suppose...

 

[Drag Limited]

I may be wrong but Hummer is the only reason we got the V8 in the 355 anyways?

We may not get anything larger than a 4cyl (just a stab in the dark) if they offer a turbo 4 and diesel 2.8 option. With that said, I FULLY expect a big honken V6 in there as an option.

 

[fitsector]

Down here in mexico the only option is the 3.6L V6 which has some low numbers compared with our current I5

3.6L V6 on new global plattform: (currently on sale in MX)
Power: 236 hp @ 5,600 rpm
Torque: 246 lb-ft @ 4,600 rpm

3.7 I5 on current 355´s
Power: 242 Hp
Torque: 242 lb-ft

This means that the numbers are the same (unnoticeable changes, couple of hp less couple of lb-ft of torque more.

Can believe after 9 years they bring an engine with the same numbers. Fuck!

 

[theAce88]

At least theyre being built in the US; Wentzville MO

 

[rkj__]

Down here in mexico the only option is the 3.6L V6 which has some low numbers compared with our current I5

3.6L V6 on new global plattform: (currently on sale in MX)
Power: 236 hp @ 5,600 rpm
Torque: 246 lb-ft @ 4,600 rpm

3.7 I5 on current 355´s
Power: 242 Hp
Torque: 242 lb-ft

This means that the numbers are the same (unnoticeable changes, couple of hp less couple of lb-ft of torque more.

Can believe after 9 years they bring an engine with the same numbers. Fuck!

I'm happy with the power from the 3.7L as a middle engine option between the 2.9 and 5.3. If the 3.6 can give better efficiency than the 3.7, that would be good for me.

However, if the 3.6 (@236hp/246ft/lb) is going to be the only option and/or the most powerful option, I can see that will certainly disappoint and underwhelm many.

 

[Z Fury]

The 3.6 will be the top HP engine available for this new truck (assuming the GM rep wasn't lying about the 4.3 being Silverado/Sierra only). I can understand the logic here - the 3.6 is the top dog in the other markets, and by keeping it that way you eliminate more testing.

It may be possible to see the 4.3 in the new Colorado, but definitely not in the first couple model years. Look how long it took the 5th Gen Camaro to get the LSA or the LS7.

 

[rkj__]

Look how long it took the 5th Gen Camaro to get the LSA or the LS7.

...and how long it took the 355 to get the 5.3.

 

[Drag Limited]

Diesel may be the "High Output" option for the colorado from the start with a V8 coming in years later, possibly with 4 year refresh.

 

[rkj__]

Diesel may be the "High Output" option for the colorado from the start with a V8 coming in years later, possibly with 4 year refresh.

I don't expect to see a diesel at launch. If it ever comes, it will have a high torque number, but I'm not sure the HP will improve much, if at all over the 3.6.