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#1 ·
Hey everyone,
I replaced my pads and was ignorant and elevated my brake lines to not let fluid leak. So I am guessing when I did that air go into the system. After I put everything back together the brakes were spongy and there was basically no pressure at all. I have tried bleeding the brakes several times (maybe not enough) but it never fully worked, pressure only gets a little better if that. Does anyone have any ideas about what I could do to get pressure enough to pass inspection haha.

Thanks,
Logan
 
#2 ·
Were you adding more DOT 3 brake fluid to the master cylinder as you went along?

Did a brake job on a 05 355 Z71 yesterday and no issues to speak of.
 
#4 ·
I do each wheel like 3 or 4 times and sometimes I loosen the banjo fittings to bleed it because air likes to get trapped in them. The only things you could really have go wrong are not bleeding them correctly or you have a loose fitting or leak. If your truck is older then you may need to rebuild the calipers, but most calipers go 10 years and farther now so I don't really think that is a possibility.
 
#5 ·
I've no clue what all the talk about the brake lines is about if you just did your pads. That being said, you did pump the brake numerous times after you did it to reseat the pistons from when you installed the new pads I assume?

I know it's an obvious one but I did something similar the first time I did a brake job and almost put the car into a tree because I had almost zero braking lol
 
#7 ·
Yeah you need to bleed your brakelines for sure!

This is an easy job!

Start on the RR > LR > RF > finish with the LF.
 
#8 ·
Is there any basis behind the order you bleed them? I was doing RR>LF>LR>RF...and it would get better over time but not much......also after I press the brake pedal down the first time not much pressure...the second and third times pressing while I drive it is alot better...

Thanks again
 
#9 ·
You start at the corner that further away from the master cylinder and work your way to it!
 
#10 ·
Start with the one furthest from your master cylinder, usually your passenger rear, then move in from farthest to closest. I generally gravity bleed, takes a little longer, but less work. Put a hose on the bleed screw take it up higher than the caliper, but lower than the master cylinder, drop it back down into a bottle where the end of the hose is submerged in brake fluid. Open the bleeder screw. Then keep and eye on your reservoir level, and giving your calipers a whack with a rubber mallet to dislodge any air bubbles. Works great, and one benefit is you will not push the plunger in the M/C out of its wear are in travel and suck any crap back in.
 
#11 · (Edited)
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#12 ·
you might need to bleed your brakes

and have you checked every single brak line the whole way through

cause i was working on a truck yesterdaya nd a leak was from the master cylinder
 
#14 ·
I'm getting the same thing. But I replaced calipers, cylinders, pads,rotors, shoes, drums, and put stainless steel braided lines on. I'm also getting wicked bad brake chatter.
 
#15 ·
If it is chattering your rotors maybe warped. I see you put new rotors on but you have a greater chance of a warp rotor when new out of the box than using the old ones. Pull thr rotors off and get them trued.
 
#16 ·
Ok, first off if you did NOT remove the lines then you should NOT have any air in the lines unless you did before. Since you are not breaking ANY connections, you should not have any air inside the hose's. So bleeding should not have been needed. Raise the front off the ground, remove wheels, and have a friend try to press teh brakes with truck running and you see if you can turn EITHER of the two front wheels with a bar in between the lug bolts. IF you can turn the driver's side or passenger and not the other side, then pull that caliper and then have him press it again. Once he does it should close up. If it does not then there's your problem. You had a bad caliper piston. Which of course will cause yoru problem. Only thing is...when piston's go they normally tend to leak. So....wonder why its not. I have seen plenty of them not leak..they just let fluid flow by the piston and don't build any pressure.

HOW did you compress the caliper? Did you go slow and use a C clamp? Or did you use a rod and yoru body weight or what?
 
#17 ·
That being said, once you did try to bleed the lines you COULD have introduced air in them then...so after you check the caliper's you MAY need to do a good bleed on them then.

Oh, and screw for inspection reasons...brakes you need more than any thing else bro! LOL