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Balance Shaft's Deleted!

8.5K views 13 replies 6 participants last post by  Sirsam661  
#1 ·
Hey all, New to the forums. I have been lingering around here for a couple of weeks since I got my 2006 Colorado. I got the truck for little to nothing with 344k miles, one owner still running. I noticed before I bought it that it had a pretty noticeable tick but the guy assured me that it had been there for the last 50k miles, figured it was just a lifter. It also had two engine codes, one related to vacuum being to low, and one related to timing. Fixed the vacuum issue, the airbox between the throttle body and MAF had a bad leak. The more I drove it the more it seemed to loose power until one day I almost didn't get home. I could barely get it to 35MPH. I figured it was time to just rebuild it or swap in a LS. I found a good deal on a rebuild kit so I tore into the motor and HOLY CRAP THE CARBON BUILD UP! Other than that though wow the inside the engine was still in spec, bearings all looked pretty good, except the balance shaft bearings. They looked horrible. I took the block to a machine shop cause I didn't see any way to get them out with the tools I have other than knocking them into the block then bending them up to get them out "Exactly what the engine shop did". He got them out but had a hell of a time finding a tool to put them in, So I made him a bushing which didn't end up working. The bearings got messed up trying to put them in and the shafts would not spin freely, not to mention the bushing would not allow him to even get them in far enough to even get good oil flow. I pumped oil through the block and got a trickle out of one bearing and the other was not getting any. This is where the fun part came in. I took my knowledge as a machinist and a mechanic and deleted them. Everyone on the forum said you cant do it, even though almost every inline I have worked on from Honda's to Ecotec's we always deleted them on high RPM builds. Misconception about balance shafts is they balance the engine which they do not, The create a negative balance to compensate for the slow and speed up of the crank/pistons during combustion. Its all for comfort of the driver, this being a old truck I just want to use as a truck, I was not expecting a Cadillac so I went through with it.

First of all, engine obviously has two, there is a larger diameter one that spins the same was as the engine, and a smaller one that spins the opposite direction. The larger one was easy to delete as it only gets oil from one spot in the block and feeds the back bearings through a hole in the shaft. For that all I did was pull the retainer plate/bearing piece off the shaft and make a replica without oil holes that was a very snug tap in fit, bolted it in and done. The smaller side was a little more difficult as it gets oil from all the bearings, I guess it was an after thought when they designed the engine and the oil galley was only on one side of the block. So for this side, the balance shaft had a metal plate with a set screw holding the front bearing for the shaft. I removed the plate and made a shaft about 11 inches long that was a very snug tap in into all the different size journals. No chain, No moving shafts. I just got the truck back together and have been driving it maybe a week and it runs great, The ride quality honestly has not even changed. The engine idle is high enough it does not really make a difference. The only time I notice a difference is if I almost stall it or I drop then engine speed down below idle. High RPMs no difference.

I wanted to make this post to let everyone know it can be done. All my research lead to it cant be done, and I have yet to find someone that has done it. To me they are just a hassle to deal with when rebuilding. I have worked on a lot of engines, and this engine by far has a ton of design flaws. Those balancer bearings being the top.
 
#3 ·
Man I wish I took pictures, during the whole process it didn't cross my mind up until I got the engine back together. Which bearing fell out? Only one of the shafts are oiled from the bearings, the other shaft is oiled from the end and oil is pumped through the shaft to get to the two bearings. Only thing I could think to do is delete em. The way I did mine is left the bearings in and made a shaft that was snug fit in the bearing, the same can be done without the bearings just need a bigger shaft to fit the bearing bore.

If the one that is oiled from the end of the shaft lost the bearing, you could probably delete that one by tapping and putting a set screw with lock tight in the oil hole on the little aluminum piece that holds the shaft in the block. Then just leave that shaft out and the other in and do not put the chain back on.

The only reason I went ahead with what I did making a shaft is because the bearing was not far enough in. I was worried the oil would just blow past the edge of the bearing and cause low oil pressure. If I never took it to the machine shop and left the old bearings in I probably would have just deleted the shafts that is oiled from the front and left the other in without the chain.
 
#5 ·
Ah yeah you will need to either get the other bearing out and make a shaft to fit those bores or find a automotive machine shop that can put new ones in it. That was my issue I went to all the automotive machine shops around here and only one was willing to try and he damaged them putting them in and did not get them in enough so I made a shaft to block them, truck is still running strong also.
 
#6 ·
My dad is the mechanic, I am not. I showed my dad this post and he 100% understood where you went with this. He suggested to me that we could probably accomplish the same thing by getting bearings made by a machine shop that were about 2/1000 larger than original instead of making a dummy shaft, and then making it so that the bearing do not have oil slits/ holes... just a solid bearing. What's your opinion of this? We are not machinists so we don't have ready access to a lathe.

He created his own balance shaft delete on a Plymouth Voyageur van way back in the 90's before delete kits existed. This was on a Mitsubishi 2.5 engine, and the van was a 1985 model. Because of this, he was able to salvage the otherwise damaged engine. A delete kit was later introduced for that same Mitsubishi engine.
 
#7 ·
My dad is the mechanic, I am not. I showed my dad this post and he 100% understood where you went with this. He suggested to me that we could probably accomplish the same thing by getting bearings made by a machine shop that were about 2/1000 larger than original instead of making a dummy shaft, and then making it so that the bearing do not have oil slits/ holes... just a solid bearing. What's your opinion of this? We are not machinists so we don't have ready access to a lathe.

He created his own balance shaft delete on a Plymouth Voyageur van way back in the 90's before delete kits existed. This was on a Mitsubishi 2.5 engine, and the van was a 1985 model. Because of this, he was able to salvage the otherwise damaged engine. A delete kit was later introduced for that same Mitsubishi engine.
For that side all you would need is bearings with no oil hole, so if you make some just leave the oil holes out of them. That’s probably the easiest solution, if I had a way to get em out that’s what I would have done. I just used the balance shaft to get measurements and made a dummy shaft that pressed through em.
 
#9 ·
I made a dummy shaft because my bearings were messed up by the machinist and I wasn’t 100% sure they would seal with the balance shaft, honestly if you didn’t have an issue with them I believe you can just leave the chain off, I would always double check the oil pressure after though just to be sure. This engine is actually coming out in the coming weeks I am going LS. I love this truck but the 2.8l is under powered, and who don’t want a Colorado with a V8.
 
#10 ·
Hey I forgot to message back about the result of the balance shaft delete on the 2.9. My dad finished rebuilding it, but I had to wait a while for him to drop it in the truck because he only wanted to work when it was not cold and not too hot (he is almost 70). Anyhow, in August we dropped the engine back in. I have driven 6000 km (3750 miles) since then and the engine is running great. A little more vibration at the low RPM, especially when the engine is cold, but at highway speeds, it completely goes away.

Definitely, the delete can be done.
 
#13 ·
You guys, I’m glad to hear that some people succesfully remover the balance craps. I’m trying to delete mine since they are super worn. Some people said to just rotate 90 degree the bearings so they won’t be feed with oil. My only concern is, do I actually need to make a dummy shaft ? I can get away with just blocking the oil gallerys ?