Here is the only pic I have (on photo-bucket) of my 04 RCSB Silverado.

I sold it when I needed to haul 2 car seats for a much more practical LS1/T56 Z-28 hardtop (reason for my screen name). I got quite a few trophies road racing it.

Next I worked on a Dakota Quad Cab 4x4 with a 4.7L V-8 and 5-speed manual (rare). It was actually one of the best handling 4x4s I have ever driven. I had Hotchkis sway bars and Bilstien shocks on it.

Then, my wife wanted an RV, so I went big truck. 2007 was the last year Chevy made a V-8 stick shift truck (they sold old body and new body style 2500s in 07). I found this low mile 07 2500HD 2wd, 5-speed, 6.0L truck w only 9k miles! I debadged it (like all my vehicles), added big sway bars and Bilstiens (see a pattern here, lol), cranked up the front T-bars (yes 2wd 2500HDs had the same fame as the 4x4s like the 12 V-8 Colorados apparently), and added some Cragar Soft 8 Wheels w stock center caps, and bigger BFG tires.

Got bored with that, sold the RV and truck, and have been playing with a modded 03 Rubicon (5-speed) lately.

So, now I want a V-8, 4 doors, and some towing capability again. I also want to fit in m y garage, not weigh a ton, and handle well. So the Colorado is looking good to me.

 

Might want to wait till the new colorados come out and welcome to the fam

 

Thanks. Not so sure about the new Colorado. I like the looks of the current model better. The new one looks a lot like my wife's Traverse. Plus, I am worried the V-8 option will go away.

 

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There could be an option of a diesel in the new trucks. Or has that been already confirmed as a no go?

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:welcome2: Nice set of wheels you had, Hope that you find the new coly with the v8

 

The rebates on the Colorado haven't changed from the previous month -- at least for my location (Alaska). I ordered a Colorado 4 weeks ago and the incentives at the time were $1500 cash back (Owner Loyalty didn't apply to Colly from what I was told/read). I just checked and the $1500 cash back is still there for the '12 Colorado Crew Cabs through 30-Apr. See if your Dealer will do GM Supplier pricing -- that's about 4% additional off the MSRP and you can get that from your employer, credit union, or likewise.

My truck (5.3L 2LT 4x4) was built this week and it's started to ship to Alaska... so I'm looking at about $3000 off MSRP w/ GM Supplier financing & cash back rebate.

 

Congrats on the new truck!!

Last month (in my area) I was allowed $2000 in GM card earnings, there was ,I think, a $500 or $1000 owner loyalty, and I want to say a $1500 rebate. Now the earnings are limited to $1k, and there is no owner loyalty bonus. My hope is they bring back either the owner loyalty in the coming weeks, or up the GM card earnings again.

My dealer will do supplier pricing, plus my wife is in graduate school (their student discount is essentially supplier pricing). I just want that extra $1000-1500 in rebates back.

 

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Welcome to the 355Nation!

 

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And I didn't want to be the one to say it, but my Colorado Crew with the I-5 nets 5000lbs.

Man you have had some sweet rides, would love to get my hands on that 2500 you had. or the 04. Or the Jeep :lol:

 

And I didn't want to be the one to say it, but my Colorado Crew with the I-5 nets 5000lbs.

Man you have had some sweet rides, would love to get my hands on that 2500 you had. or the 04. Or the Jeep :lol:

Wow, that is bad news! Please tell me you had like 50 railroad ties in the bed when you drove on the scale.

My 04 RCSB Silverado weighed 4,700 lbs. The Quad Can Dakota weighed around that also, so I guess 5000 is possible. But I was really hoping from more like 4000 lbs in a Colorado, especially a 2wd.

I'm hoping to test drive one soon. I'll try to get it on a scale.

Update: It looks like the gross vehicle weight is 5000 pounds for s CC Colorado. That is fully loaded. I hope that is the number you meant.

Also, the Rubicon is up for sale (so I can get the Colorado) if you are interested.

 

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my 4wd z71 5cylinder with a lift kit(cross members add weight) and mud tires and steelies weighs around 4400 lbs so I would think the zq8 would weigh around 3800lbs.

I say go with the zq8 since you have a 4x4 and don't have to worry about needing the 4wd. Plus the 4wd components aren't that great, the transfercase is the only solid component. The front differentials and cv's are complete trash on these things.

 

Thanks for the input Fixxer!

I am leaning toward the ZQ8 pretty hard. I figure even if I did the 6.2L L92/6L80E swap down the road, I would want the full size TC and front diff anyway if I chose to go AWD.

And it leaves the option open for staying 2wd and running the T56 later on.

And, hey, $3k is $3k. If I can save it now, no sense buying components I wont need often.

Oddly enough, my modded Jeep Wrangler weighs 4,400 lbs also (with 33"s and steel wheels (5). I tried to be weight conscious even w my off-roader. I have an aluminum winch plate, aluminum rockers, aluminum under armor, and aluminum gas tank skid. I've had a bit of a weight fixation from my road racing, but it applies to any performance category.

 

My extended cab 2wd 5.3l colorado 3lt zq8 was 4180lbs with me and about a half tank gas, so it would be about 3950lbs with out me.

 

Thanks, that is just the kind of real world info I was hoping for! I hope the Crew isn't a lot heavier...

Yeah being weight conscious with a jeep is a good thing anyways, they don't have the best center of gravity so the more weight you throw in random places can end up putting you on your roof faster. Sounds like you have the right idea, if you wanted a mud machine down the road from it you would be better off with the zq8 because you can just grab an older more reliable manual transfer case and you will have less to cut/rip out of the front of the truck. I would have been v8/6l80 swapped already if I wasn't 4wd, it would be a lot pricier for me to try and get the transfer case and front shaft to work with the 6l80e and I wouldn't be happy with the v8 and 4 speed. I'm just waiting for my bank account to grow some and then I will be doing some chopping and rebuilding on mine. I was making progress until medical bills caught up with me last year since my benefits got cut.


Your definitely going to fit in here on the nation. I hope your as happy with your truck when you get it as we all are. I think these are some of the sharpest trucks on the roads and I can't tell you how many times I get approached and get the "hey man badass truck" comments even with a smashed bedside.

Thanks, I should mention that 4,400 is with me, full tank, tool box and recovery gear in it (trail weight).

I do really dig the looks of the Colorado/Canyons. When I had the lowered RCSB Silverado people often mistook it for a Colorado. And that was a great looking truck in its own right.

I don't want to ruffle any feathers, but, I was reading some of the technical write ups since I have never turned a wrench on a 355. I was surprised to see how the rotors were bolted onto the hubs (like Japanese vehicles). I also find it odd the way the cross-members hang below the frame. Is the 355 a foreign platform with GM drive train? I also read the 4x4 TC is Japanese. Forgive my ignorance, I haven't worked on many foreign trucks.

Either way, the looks and 5.3 have me pretty well sold on the idea!

 

Yeah being weight conscious with a jeep is a good thing anyways, they don't have the best center of gravity so the more weight you throw in random places can end up putting you on your roof faster. Sounds like you have the right idea, if you wanted a mud machine down the road from it you would be better off with the zq8 because you can just grab an older more reliable manual transfer case and you will have less to cut/rip out of the front of the truck. I would have been v8/6l80 swapped already if I wasn't 4wd, it would be a lot pricier for me to try and get the transfer case and front shaft to work with the 6l80e and I wouldn't be happy with the v8 and 4 speed. I'm just waiting for my bank account to grow some and then I will be doing some chopping and rebuilding on mine. I was making progress until medical bills caught up with me last year since my benefits got cut.


Your definitely going to fit in here on the nation. I hope your as happy with your truck when you get it as we all are. I think these are some of the sharpest trucks on the roads and I can't tell you how many times I get approached and get the "hey man badass truck" comments even with a smashed bedside.

 

Right, the gross weight on the door is what your truck would weigh fully loaded per spec. This is useful info in choosing what weight license plates to get. But actual weight should be much less.

 

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Well, I just read up on the good old Wikipedia and it said the 355 platform was a joint engineering effort between GM and Isuzu.

Can you experienced guys let me know what other design elements show their Isuzu roots? Like I said, I am a domestic guy. My knowledge is mostly from traditional GM trucks, full size and S-10.

 

Basically the whole front end is isuzu designed(copied from the rodeos). It's not a bad design just sucks to have to pull the hub to replace the rotors, but you will see that happening more often because it drives up repair costs on labor which will help the shops make money since our drivetrains are becoming more and more reliable taking work away. Our frames are one of the most stout I have ever seen in a midsize pick-up though I honestly wouldn't be worried treating my truck as a halfton. I'm pretty sure the transfer case is made by Borg warner who also makes our 4L60E transmission.

The s-10s were also a joint effort between gm and isuzu. I wish they used the isuzu dmax diesel engine in the US because that thing is a torque monster and would easily give the 5.3L gas job a run for it's money.

 

And I'm pretty sure that the I-4 and i-5 are Isuzu motors as well.

 

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Man, just reading some of the fine print and it seems the 3LT (V-8 ZQ8) package cannot come with the trailering package...

I realize adding a hitch and wiring is pretty straight-forward. Is there anything else I would be missing from the factory tow package that does not come on the V-8 models anyway?

I test drove a 2LT 5.3 4x4 today. I didn't notice a tow/haul button or anything on it, but all 2LTs come with the tow package.

I also do realize the ZQ8 has different springs out back, I assume that is why the no tow option.

 

The reason they dont put the trailering package on the ZQ8 is because its lowered, look up the towing specs between the ZQ8 and all the other its about 1000lbs less i think. I dont see why you couldnt just add your own hitch and wiring and then add helper bags to make up the difference, because the drivetrain (engine, transmission, driveshaft, and rear end) would be the same between other then the leaf spings.

 

The reason they dont put the trailering package on the ZQ8 is because they lowered tow rating because it is lowered and the sping rate, look up the towing specs between the ZQ8 and all the other. I dont see why you couldnt just add your on hitch and wiring and then add helper bags to make up the difference, because the drivetrain (engine, transmission, driveshaft, and rear end) would be the same between other then the leaf spings.

Thanks! That is pretty much what I figured. I just want to make sure I am not missing anything.

Now I'm reading some threads on here about rust. My city just loves dumping salt down. I know that there is the 6 year 100,000 mile warranty on rust, but...

I know my Dakota and previous S-10s really started rusting early. I assume the Colorados will be in the same boat (thin sheet metal, engineered obsolescence). It kills me to think about it...

I am jealous of you southern guys! Rust just ruins vehicles up here!