I wouldn't think it would be an issue if I use all stock camaro parts, motor, tranny and rear end. I don't plan on abusing it. For me the idea for this swap is to be different and to have a smooth lowered ride. I have a motorcycle when I want to be an asshole haha
When I talked to a local tranny shop he said the stock camaro T56 would be a great tranny if I left it stock. He said in his experience the only issues with the T56 is the aluminum fork. He said if I wanted to do burnouts or anything like that to get the steel fork upgrade.
If I'm not mistaken the ABS system is ran through the ECU. The idea I had is literally take everything from the camaro. So basically the only stock Colorado part would be the cab, box and the dash. (Yes a few more things) so I wouldn't have any of the Colorado ECU electronics in the truck so I shouldn't have an issue with any of the systems being able to talk to each other because they would all be camaro systems. That make any sense?
T56, had week forks, weak keys, and easily burnt 1-2 syncros, weak slip, joint, weak main-shaft, gto, f-body versions. But this is at above stock power levels. I did plenty of burnouts on my 5spd, no harm done.. I fired the diff though..
Killing tranny is 1-2 burnout shift. using your right foot you hold the break slightly, with your toe, while you pickup the rpms up, you depress the clutch put it in first, dump the clutch move your left foot back to the brake, right to the gas, pickup enough speed, you want to take on second, so what do you do? You don't have a free foot to depress the clutch, so you make a 1-2 shift without a clutch, and keeping your foot on the gas a bit, now you can really roast em.. and show off to your buddy!!
Congrats you don't know it, but you just smoked your lining on your 1-2 sychro, it will slowly break down, and fall off, ounce it does you wont shift from 1-2, though a crunch, and doing this a few times kills the dogs on the gear, and the slider.
Every T-56 has evidence of that, that I've taken apart..why do people punish the poor trans? I've never done this...ever!! I do shift from first to 2nd, but let the vehicle roll forward, and depress the clutch to the floor!
Also no lift shifts or power shifts will eventually kill a T-56, they are built tough, but not for everyday abuse.
I drive hard, but always use the clutch, and never power shift!
One other killer is a hanging clutch meaning it never realises fully, this will wear the synchros, and dogs down, very fast! An 1/16" air gap is all you need between the salve, no more, or you wont be fully depressing the clutch.
Now the 2009 and up Camaro uses a TR6060 its nothing like a T56, not one part is the same, all they share, is that they both have 6 gears? Its back shifted like the CTS-v T-56, so its shifter will be tough to mate to the Colorado, and it uses a fixed yoke like CTS-v T-56. The TR6060, is similar in design to the T-56, much its much stronger.
You can put the guts of a Tr6060 into a T-56 case with some aluminum welding, and machine work. that's about as much compatibility as the two have.
But you can make a forward shift kit from a T-56 work on a Tr6060, I'm pretty sure you can, but it will require partial dissembley of the trans. And mating the Stock coly slave to the TR6060 will take custom lines, no one knows weather the master will provide enough travel for the Tr6060 either? That's why you might be better off with a regular T-56. But if you buy a Camaro package, I'm sure its possible to make it work somehow?
Nope the ABS is controlled buy the abs controller usually built into the Abs modulator assembly. Not the ECU, but the ECU does talk to the ABS, if it doesn't you will have error codes, and problems.
The Colorado has a Cluster, PCM, TCM, BCM, ABS, battery module, Theft module, OnStar, radio, air bag module (depending on year and options not all of these will be available)
They all talk to each other, and if one items missing you will receive codes and lights, all of these modules talk to each other Via single wire GM low speed data. With the exception of 2008, and up Colorado which has the separate PCM/TCM, they communicate with CAN, two wire GM high speed data, but to each other only, the rest still uses single wire data. In 2009 The ABS was upgraded to CAN, as well, now just those three, ABS, PCM, TCM talk via CAN, the rest is all single wire data.
There isn't a single gauge wire to the cluster its all operated through data. Same with most of the idiot lights, and DIC messages!
If one items missing you will get a constant dic message, and a idiot light.
The 2009 and up Camaro is only Can based, two wire, no single wire data in that car at all!
So nothing from the Camaro will talk to the Colorado, which will cause all the various modules to freak out! And you wont have any gauges, any way of turning the a/c on, and no way to start the damn thing either.
The ignition switch sends a resister signal to the BCM, the BCM, then sends single wire data to the PCM, saying I'm ok to start and crank are you? In addition to that if its an 07 and up truck with RPO code BAE you will also have a chip in the key transmitting the vehicles millage, and vin, to the theft module, it then sends a message saying yup, I'm ok to start too, TCM are you there? Are you in neutral or park?, Yup lets go.. enable starter relay, and fuel injector pulse with.
Now you could delete VAts, and use a push button starter, or modded start switch, or a custom relay setup, but that's not necessary, if you choose the proper 24x OS (my custom OS), or proper E67 OS.
Your best to stick with one platform electronically! Go all Camaro, gauges BCM, air bag, ABS etc.. but that insane, a complete electrical nightmare!!
The BCM in the rado controls, wipers, cruise, a/c head lamps, interior light dimming, locks, etc.. and none of that will match the Camaro BCM.
Here is what I'd do, compare the wheel speed sensors on the Camaro to a 09 and up rado, if there the same style electronically, then upgrade to a 09 Colorado brake master, booster, and abs modulator/module assembly. I'm pretty sure it will swap into an older Colorado electronically given you use the 09 and up Colorado PCM.
I'd then run a 09 Colorado OS in a E67, this uses a high bird GM high speed/low speed data bus from the factory, now running this on a manual tune isn't always the best or easiest way either. As the idle can be a bit funny coming to a stop, because your trying to run, on a auto tune, and your cruise might not work? You could use my custom OS manual 58x E67 Tune, but its untested with Can style Abs units, I do think it will work though?
The last and easiest way would be my custom E67 OS for manual, tuned for the 09 Camaro motor, and use the rest from the Colorado, except use the Can based Camaro ABS pump, module speed sensors etc.. there is a pretty good chance that it will work just like a 09 Colorado Can based Abs system?
See how complicated newer vehicle wiring and systems can be? Bastards make it hard for swappers.. and at the cost of eliminated many wires, and using data systems, save them lots of money, but creates headaches for us!
