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Transmission cooler worth it?

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#1 ·
I just had my transmission rebuilt due to losing OD and 3rd, and I am wondering if adding a transmission cooler is worth the trouble? The shop I had it at told me it isnt, but the internet seems to think different. I will be servicing the transmission properly this time around ( I bought the truck used at 150k miles and the previous owner did not keep up with it.) It will be used for lite towing on occasion ( my dirtbike and a razr 1000). I just want to make sure that the transmission has as easy of a life as it can now.

On an unrelated note, GM rebuilt the head at 53K miles. Idle is fairly smooth with an occasional vibration every so often. Is this normal for the 3.5, or should I be worried. I just changed the plugs and the old ones were clean. CEL is on for EVAP purge valve.
 
#21 ·
I agree.

I use a scangauge 2 to monitor temps and keep an eye on them as much as possible.

I'm always at the top end of my GVWR when I camp and having an auxiliary transmission cooler keeps my temps around 150-190 even in mid summer. WV has some pretty long/steep hills to climb and the added weight worried me before adding the cooler. I sometimes tow my camper and use 3rd gear while seeing the same temps.

I've observed oil temps as high as 225 and water temps as high as 215ish while camping in summer. I wanted to add these numbers because they're all related in my opinion.

My transfer case is typically 30 degrees warmer than my transmission temperature (exterior case measured with a laser thermometer). I'm not running the stock transfer case so others may have different numbers. I'm currently working on a solution that could help reduce the 30 degree difference.

I have not regretted adding an additional transmission cooler and think it will prove to be worth it for my application. It's probably not needed if it's just a simple daily driver but a lot of us on 355nation use our trucks for performance and need every advantage we can get.

Long story short.....it's worth it.
 
#5 ·
With all respect to the OP, questions like this can never really be answered.
Worth it how?

No one can measure whether a transmission cooler is going to pay for itself in protection for your transmission. If you install one and your transmission lasts 300k miles, did the cooler help you get there? If you don't install a transmission cooler and the transmission dies before 150K miles, was excess heat the cause?

Most of the folks here (excuse me please, I don't mean to speak for every 355 Nation member) have a bias toward making it stronger, better. Many here are ready to drop a few dollars to make their vehicle "better than factory OE" (and that includes me).
Will a transmission cooler really be a good use of the money it costs?
Who knows? You can do it and then drive the truck for 20 years and you won't know for sure.

What you can know for certain is that heat is destructive to an automatic transmission, and a transmission generates heat from within while you drive (and absorbs some engine heat too of course). More heat is bad, less heat is good.
 
#7 ·
Thats a great answer, and I appreciate your input. I could have phrased the question better as I agree that no one can tell you that a trans cooler will save your transmission. I guess what I wanted to know was if there was a big enough drop in temp to warrant installing one. Like your last line states, less heat is good so I believe I will install one tonight. I pickup up a cooler at lunch.
 
#6 · (Edited)
Optimal trans temps are around 200* and as a reverence, even a small cooler like this B&M 70268 (11" x 7-1/4" x 3/4" model is rated at 13.000 BTU) will help drop the temps 15*-20* with 100*+ outside temps. I personally like having the extra insurance. One thing to consider is geographical location. they do make coolers with built in by-pass to make sure it reaches at least the minimum operating temperature. I think this is the one time too cool is not always better. In another recent post, a member mentioned changing the oil/filter every 25k instead of 50k. something I plan on doing also, again, fairly cheap insurance imo. https://www.355nation.net/forum/how...how-miscellaneous/9161-how-install-transmission-cooler-your-colorado-3-5-a.html
 
#8 ·
Optimal trans temps are around 200* and as a reverence, even a small cooler like this B&M 70268 (11" x 7-1/4" x 3/4" model is rated at 13.000 BTU) will help drop the temps 15*-20*. I personally like having the extra insurance. One thing to consider is geographical location. they do make coolers with built in by-pass to make sure it reaches at least the minimum operating temperature. I think this is the one time too cool is not always better. In another recent post, a member mentioned changing the oil/filter every 25k instead of 50k. something I plan on doing also, again, fairly cheap insurance imo. https://www.355nation.net/forum/how...how-miscellaneous/9161-how-install-transmission-cooler-your-colorado-3-5-a.html
I live in North Georgia so I does not get too cool around here. If it did, then I could always cover the cooler with some cardboard until it hits operating temps. This isn't my daily driver so I'm not too worried about it.
 
#13 ·
I am with Rick on this. Can't prove it will help, but put it in a few years back. Satisfied I did. Did not have means to check temperature until about a year after I put it in. I run T-oil temps around 195+ when fully warm. Water runs 195-210 most of the time, up about 5 degrees maybe.
The only concern is that mine does not have bypass valve so trans temperature might get to 150 if I am doing short trips.
 
#16 · (Edited)
Thinking of it... I might be inclined to add an external spin-on filter for the transmission before trying to get an additional external cooler stuffed in there.

One member here a while back posted of putting a Derale single-row tubular cooler in the transmission-fluid line underneath the radiator.

http://derale.com/products/fluid-coolers/transmission/heat-sink
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#17 ·
One benefit of a trans cooler is that you can remove some load from the radiator and engine by bypassing the trans cooling circuit in the radiator. On heavy duty applications that can make enough difference to eliminate engine overheating and improve trans cooling at the same time.
My old '81 Suburban struggled with cooling when it had a stock 350 & TH400 trans. I quickly tired of that and built a 463" big block with large engine oil and trans coolers.
Big motor but still using the same radiator, never again went over 200F even towing very heavy loads in the summer. Even though it had fairly low compression and built to run 87oct leaded regular gas, it was seriously stout (fast!) for a 4,800lb+ truck in the late 80's. By the way the engine was a .030" over 455 Buick. Funny, the truck is long gone but the engine and trans are still on a rack in my garage. Gee, in a beater 355 I'd bet 12's would be easy even on 87oct unleaded and no computer would be required.
 
#18 ·
One benefit of a trans cooler is that you can remove some load from the radiator and engine by bypassing the trans cooling circuit in the radiator. ...
I believe this.
Is there space for a large enough cooler to bypass the OE in-radiator cooler on a 355?
 
#19 ·
Don't tow in OD.......... I stay in 3 while towing (my 2010 automatic has 1,2,3,OD(maybe D) positions). While not towing, if I know I will not be going any faster than 50mph for any length of time (ie. a few miles at least), I stay in 3 position. I use OD when I know I will be not towing and cruising at 50mph and higher for some distance. If you watch your RPMs and MPHs, you can shift between 3 and OD on the fly. A friend of mine once told me (he was a transmission mechanic for several years), that people tend to burn up the OD because they use it all the time, instead of just when it would really benefit the most.
 
#20 ·
I have a manual trans & have never worked on a auto 355 so will pass on suggestions for front mounted trans coolers. That said it would be easy to mount a cooler (engine oil or trans) under the bed & strap on a 6" 12vdc muffin fan with or without a simple Klixon bi-metal thermostat mounted on the oil line.
I have also used a 3/8" ID X 6' or 7' long finned tube for trans cooling on big block dirt circle track cars. It was under the car and inside the frame rails and it worked OK (not great) as long as it wasn't totally covered with mud.
 
#23 ·
It was a little more of a pain to install than I thought, but I got the cooler in last night. These are my temps after a 30 min drive on the interstate.



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Can you tell me how you got the trans temp to show on your scan gauge. I’ve tried everything I’ve found on here to make it read trans temp. And all has failed.


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#25 ·
Pics of the cooler installation?
Purchase details? (manufacturer, model ?)
 
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Here’s pics of mine. Sorry I didn’t get it before I put the grill back on. I relocated the horn a bit to fit the cooler In there. Then the added inline filter


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#39 ·
Ok, I just double checked my settings and have it set as follows:
Mode: VPW
TXD: 6C10F122194001
RXF: 046205190640
RXD: 3008
MTH: 00090005FFD8
NAME: TFT

I have a 2006 extended cab 2wd with the 3.5L

I could have sworn that I got it from that page, but must have been mistaken.