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#1 ·
I have been looking at parts to do a fan conversion for our 2006 chevy colorado 3.5L. I have read many many different forums about it and none of which are what I am thinking of doing.

my plan is to make my own shroud out of light gauge steel/ alluminum with the shop at school. then I want to adapt a ford taurus fan to fit the shroud and I would prefer to use the volvo 2 speed fan relay setup.

I have a few concerns/issues. first of all what is going to be the best place to put a sensor to switch the fans off and on. I am currently thinking of putting it in the lower radiator hose where the cold coolant goes into the block. my thoughts on this was that if the fan is really needed because the radiator couldnt get the job done then that would be the place that would tell me. I have looked at BMW temp switch P/N 61311378073 that has something like a 195/210 dual switch that I think will work. if I am not mistaking the truck has a 195 thermostat I was hoping for something more like 190 turn off and have high come one around 215ish. what do you guys think on the temp on/off???

my next issue is the fan, the ford taurus fans are known for the CFM they flow.however they also seem to draw alot of amps. preferrably I would like to have a soft start either rigged into the controler OR does the volvo relay set up have that already??

any one done this that can report on what kind of gains or drawbacks they got from it?

what do you guys think? I need something that is reliable, worth while, and I would prefer to stay around the $100 range.

list so far roughly

sheet metal for shroud=$25 (home depot, Lowes)

electric fan=$10 ( I have a buddy that works in a salvage yard and can get me a great deal)

volvo relay setup= roughly $20-30 on ebay

that just leaves me with the temp switch setup left unless there are other parts that would work better. the BMW switch is around $12 but then I need either a inline adapter or somewhere to put it. I would rather not hack up my radiator hose, but I think it would be the best place for it.

I want to do this for 2 reasons, I enjoy modding things and making them different/mine. and from what I understand there is a decent performance gain from this mod.

thanks guys
 
#3 ·
Why do you need to custom build a fan shroud when they're quite a few fan assemblies that fit the 355 radiator core size almost perfect?

Also that temp switch & relay combo are just more mechanical parts which are prone to failure with that high amperage motor and a variable speed solid state PWC controller may be the best option.

I personally believe by the time you have all this accomplished with the time, materials, effort & money spent you might have been better off going with a SuperModulation EFan setup for about the same cost.

http://www.355nation.net/forum/sfan...ric-fan/19452-supermodulation-efan-model-sfan4500-electric-cooling-fan-kit.html
 
#4 ·
i agree with freeballin. i actually tried to do what you are talking about here, the fans were too big to fit inside the rad dimensions so my shroud stuck out on each side. then i bought a flexalite single fan and mounted it straight to the rad. that obviously isnt the best option but here i am, a few hundred bucks down the road, and i just bought a used super mod fan.

save yourself the trouble and do it right the first time.

ps going to an electric fan vs a clutch fan is highly recommended.
 
#6 ·
I have looked at the supermodulation fans and they look awesome!! however they are a little out of my price range unless I missed something they somehwere in the $350 plus range. I have nothing against it at all in fact I would love one but I cant bring myself to spend that much on this project.

how exactly am I not doing this right? I want to build a shroud one for fun and 2 because then I know exactly how it was put in there. plus it would be a little different than others. if I could maybe get parts or something from super modulation for cheaper and piece something together that might work.


another thought I just had was if I am going to put the sensor on the lower radiator hose wouldnt I want the fan to actuate closer to around 180? because if I am getting 195+ water exiting the radiator I think I have a really big issue.

PS I am still open to other thoughts and I appreciate the help
 
#11 ·
Bite the bullet and buy the "Supermodulation" fan complete !!!
I understand you wanting to mod on your truck... Pick another project and get the best part for your application from a top tier modifying guru such as @Supermodulation !!!
 
#13 ·
sheet metal for shroud=$25 (home depot, Lowes)
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how exactly am I not doing this right? I want to build a shroud one for fun and 2 because then I know exactly how it was put in there. plus it would be a little different than others. if I could maybe get parts or something from super modulation for cheaper and piece something together that might work.

PS I am still open to other thoughts and I appreciate the help
Most fabricated sheet metal & aluminum shrouds are intended for engine driven blades or universal push/pull fans which won't flow enough to meet the requirements of your truck.

The Ford Taurus fan you mention has a three bolt rear mounted flange plate support that would be very hard to duplicate by any custom builder.

A sheet metal shroud would be too flimsy to support the motor high torque twisting and a thicker aluminum version would cost at least a hundred bucks in materials cost.​

ok cool what about maybe just the controler part? sorry I am just looking at my options
As for the solid state PWM variable speed controller they're quite a few brands on the market such as Flex-o-lite, Hayden, DC-Control, Spal, Painless, Derale etc. that start around 75 bucks on up.​
 
#15 ·
I havent done it yet. I am still collecting info and parts. so far I have dual fans out of murcury cougar v6,a temperature sensor from a VW but I am not sure about its temperature yet, and a volvo relay controller. I still need a hose adapter

so far from my measurements the fan should fit the radiator pretty close width wise but is short up and down wise by like 3 inches. this is just from my measurements but what I want to do is get some sheet metal and add to the shroud of the fan so that it covers the whole radiator. and since I want to use sheet metal I think I will get some 3/8 steel rod and use the locating holes that are already in the radiator setup, and then use the two big holes in the radiator to the top.

I am debating whether or not to put some flappers in to help with cruising air flow but I am not sure yet. also I am looking for something that would help seal it to the sides of the radiator.

I have nothing against super modulations set up and I am sure it is better than what I am putting together but I am still curious if I can put something together that will work. I am not going to ruin or cut any of the stock parts so that anything I do will be reversable if I dont like it or it is a epic fail. so far I have $40 into the project.

I used a ford windstar dual fan setup on my k1500 with a 350 and it has been working pretty good. I am using a hayden fan controller for it. it made quite a difference in the get up and go on that pickup.
 
#20 ·
I used the fan & control that I got from LMC , that was in my 91 s-10 2.8 v6. it went in a 05 with the 2.8 4cyl. ran the sensor where up top by the in coming hose. hooked up my scanner and ran it for about an hour. adjusted it to come on a hair earlier than needed. do it! It is one of the few things you can do that puts more power to the rear wheels & better gas mileage.
 
#21 ·
so maybe someone can clarify this for me....

the thermostat is in the lower radiator hose.... how does that work??? the coolant should flow from the motor into the top of the radiator and then back into the motor from the bottom of the radiator. soooo if the thermostat is in the bottom how does it do that??
 
#23 ·
ok so I finally got around to installing the electric fan. I used the contour dual electric fan, I used 1/8 inch angle iron down the sides of the fan and some window weatherstripping to seal it to the radiator supports. since the fan comes up a couple inches short on the radiator I got some 18 gauge sheet metal and put a 90 degree bend on it so that it would rest on the lip of the bottom of the radiator. I also used some all thread attached to the bottom of the fan to use for the alignment holes on the radiator, the only issue there is that apparently I measured wrong and so they don't quite fit in the holes. I will be fixing this soon.

I ended up using the BMW dual temperature sensor with the lower temperature in the bottom radiator hose. the fan turns on when the truck gets roughly to 207 degrees and cools it down really fast untill it gets to about 191. My guess is that I should have listened to badlander and went with a little hotter sensor because the thermostat is probably closing and so the water isn't circulating to the sensor, I have a new sensor on its way that will be a little hotter. This also tells me that my thermostat has probably been replaced with a 195.

I used the famous volvo relay controler with a 40 amp inline fuse. I plan on adding a circuit so that when the AC is on the fan will come on as well. and I also might add something like a emergency circuit so that in the event the relay dies or maybe I just want to manually turn it on I still can.

so far it seems like it will work great I am going to try the hotter sensor and see what happens, I didn't modify anything to the point that if I need to go back to the normal fan it is just a matter of removing the electric fan and putting the old shroud back in. the fan is super quiet and in the cab its actually really hard to notice when it turns on. it also doesn't seem to suck much energy at all. My camera on my phone is currently not working but I will try to get pictures up soon of the finished product.